In our daily interactions, some people seem to uplift us—while others leave us feeling drained. But is the issue really them—or how we respond to them? In this episode, Michael and Christian unpack the idea of “energy vampires” and challenge the common narrative around difficult people.

Rather than labeling others as sources of negativity, the hosts explore how our own focus, mindset, and expectations shape our experience. This episode encourages leaders to take responsibility for their energy, manage their attention intentionally, and foster better relationships through shared values and purpose.

Some key takeaways from this episode:

• Why the term “energy vampire” often reflects more about us than the other person.
• How attention and mindset directly influence our energy levels.
• The role of shared values in determining whether someone drains or inspires you.
• Why unsolicited advice can damage trust—and how to avoid it.
• How leaders can shift from judgment to curiosity when dealing with difficult dynamics.
• When we take ownership of our attention and energy, we become more resilient, empathetic, and effective as leaders—able to lead with greater clarity and connection.

About the Podcasters Michael on LinkedIn: ► http://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-portz Christian on LinkedIn and Instagram: ► http://linkedin.com/in/christiankohlhof ► https://www.instagram.com/christian.kohlhof.leadership/

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